Once again about invites and the methods for their preparation
Greetings to all readers of this blog, those who care about the place where we spend a large part of the time helping to develop others and develop yourself.
The motive for writing this topic was an email that came to me this afternoon, but first a brief background: last week I wrote several articles on Habr, including the blog "Telcos" to my delight, even for a while, trapped at home. Accordingly, in the review there was an extensive discussion, I asked a lot of questions I've answered. So I became "a lot", I practically became "the first" in some blogs. Oh, and my e-mail is specified in the clear in the profile, do not hide from anyone:)
So, to quote the letter:
from Sixtoff Andrew <sixtoff@gmail.com>
the time zone of the sender Sent at 13:16 (GMT+04:00) Time zone sender: 13:18. ✆
who Goshila@gmail.com
date 26 Jul 2010 13:16
the theme of habrahabr
sent via gmail.com
signed gmail.com
Hide details 13:16 (15 mins ago)
Good afternoon!
Immediately apologize for such an unexpected trouble...
And bothering me, actually, here on what question:
long enough fond of it, namely IP telephony and NGN networks... it's from the story ))
has also long been a reader of "chabry" I think as You... but the destiny has developed in such obosom that are still not registered there...
therefore, if You have the ability and desire, please throw an invite before it is ready to throw a couple of my articles on Telecom (unless you are afraid to place them).
Once again, I apologize for the inconvenience. And thanks in advance for any whether positive or negative ))
Have a nice day.
—
Regards, Andrew Sixtoff
I was surprised by the lack of direct appeal in the letter that suggests the idea of a mass mailing and I have not hesitated to answer:
Andrew, tell me, You many such letters you write? And what criterion do you choose the mail-list? Anyone with a drawer profile set? If your article in the sandbox?
Unexpectedly soon (I assumed that they communicate almost with the bot), the response is:
actually, You're the second person who wrote it chose just the first of "Telecoms".
About the sandbox not even know... Thanks for the advice — poprobuyte there.....
From the answer it becomes clear that this person just didn't know about the normal way of obtaining an invite to the resource (and the audience of the former CIS it is generally accepted first plug in, and when you smoke — read manual); or people simply don't believe that in a sandbox it will post notice of Sanitat that, indeed, comparatively rare.
In this case, it seems that this is the case, and people will go and publish a post in the sandbox, everything in the rules;
but perhaps what I suggested first: a bot crawler that collects e-mails vysokohromistyh/top-rated/just active Habrovky and sends them impersonal-tear postby about invite. In response sends the first article of the wiki, in confirmation of their competence.
Or otherwise: publishes an article from the next tutorial in the sandbox, and then mail begging for an invite. While this trick is possible to perform mass monitoring pesochnica minimum.
Anyway, Habrovany the people democratically, ready to go forward.
Here I have
1) Questions that seek answers with your help:
Did anyone like bot-behaviour?
What had happened?
How many similar bots on habré?
As on Habre people just not knowing about the sandbox and to guess the way?
How many of those who had drawn attention to his post in the sandbox "external" means?
Can bots after invites automated gain karma and inviteth other bots or bought invite?
In addition to the bots and inconsiderate people there are "middle ground" — the trolls: how many people were trying to get an invite at any cost with malice?
All the "how much" I would like to estimate the percentage of the total audience.
2) Recommendations:
If we want to preserve the pristine Habra — attentive to the power that he gives us — for example, to give the invites.
If we do decide to take action "to bypass", do not be lazy to double-check to find out additional information about the person, send another letter, perhaps it will change your "doubters" opinion.
To Habr developers to Develop embedded intelligent mechanisms to monitor bot activity.
Post Scriptum:
To Sixtoff Andrew <sixtoff@gmail.com>: I hope that your posts will appear in the sandbox and a good man will notice and send You an invite. Unfortunately or fortunately it will not be me, because karma does not allow me.
To the inhabitants of Habra: as in all areas of life, I ask you to show alertness, vigilance, common sense.
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The motive for writing this topic was an email that came to me this afternoon, but first a brief background: last week I wrote several articles on Habr, including the blog "Telcos" to my delight, even for a while, trapped at home. Accordingly, in the review there was an extensive discussion, I asked a lot of questions I've answered. So I became "a lot", I practically became "the first" in some blogs. Oh, and my e-mail is specified in the clear in the profile, do not hide from anyone:)
So, to quote the letter:
from Sixtoff Andrew <sixtoff@gmail.com>
the time zone of the sender Sent at 13:16 (GMT+04:00) Time zone sender: 13:18. ✆
who Goshila@gmail.com
date 26 Jul 2010 13:16
the theme of habrahabr
sent via gmail.com
signed gmail.com
Hide details 13:16 (15 mins ago)
Good afternoon!
Immediately apologize for such an unexpected trouble...
And bothering me, actually, here on what question:
long enough fond of it, namely IP telephony and NGN networks... it's from the story ))
has also long been a reader of "chabry" I think as You... but the destiny has developed in such obosom that are still not registered there...
therefore, if You have the ability and desire, please throw an invite before it is ready to throw a couple of my articles on Telecom (unless you are afraid to place them).
Once again, I apologize for the inconvenience. And thanks in advance for any whether positive or negative ))
Have a nice day.
—
Regards, Andrew Sixtoff
I was surprised by the lack of direct appeal in the letter that suggests the idea of a mass mailing and I have not hesitated to answer:
Andrew, tell me, You many such letters you write? And what criterion do you choose the mail-list? Anyone with a drawer profile set? If your article in the sandbox?
Unexpectedly soon (I assumed that they communicate almost with the bot), the response is:
actually, You're the second person who wrote it chose just the first of "Telecoms".
About the sandbox not even know... Thanks for the advice — poprobuyte there.....
From the answer it becomes clear that this person just didn't know about the normal way of obtaining an invite to the resource (and the audience of the former CIS it is generally accepted first plug in, and when you smoke — read manual); or people simply don't believe that in a sandbox it will post notice of Sanitat that, indeed, comparatively rare.
In this case, it seems that this is the case, and people will go and publish a post in the sandbox, everything in the rules;
but perhaps what I suggested first: a bot crawler that collects e-mails vysokohromistyh/top-rated/just active Habrovky and sends them impersonal-tear postby about invite. In response sends the first article of the wiki, in confirmation of their competence.
Or otherwise: publishes an article from the next tutorial in the sandbox, and then mail begging for an invite. While this trick is possible to perform mass monitoring pesochnica minimum.
Anyway, Habrovany the people democratically, ready to go forward.
Here I have
1) Questions that seek answers with your help:
Did anyone like bot-behaviour?
What had happened?
How many similar bots on habré?
As on Habre people just not knowing about the sandbox and to guess the way?
How many of those who had drawn attention to his post in the sandbox "external" means?
Can bots after invites automated gain karma and inviteth other bots or bought invite?
In addition to the bots and inconsiderate people there are "middle ground" — the trolls: how many people were trying to get an invite at any cost with malice?
All the "how much" I would like to estimate the percentage of the total audience.
2) Recommendations:
If we want to preserve the pristine Habra — attentive to the power that he gives us — for example, to give the invites.
If we do decide to take action "to bypass", do not be lazy to double-check to find out additional information about the person, send another letter, perhaps it will change your "doubters" opinion.
To Habr developers to Develop embedded intelligent mechanisms to monitor bot activity.
Post Scriptum:
To Sixtoff Andrew <sixtoff@gmail.com>: I hope that your posts will appear in the sandbox and a good man will notice and send You an invite. Unfortunately or fortunately it will not be me, because karma does not allow me.
To the inhabitants of Habra: as in all areas of life, I ask you to show alertness, vigilance, common sense.
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